Okay, this rather harsh and unfriendly communication from a staff member already painted a bad picture. Now, we have this, which is totally unacceptable and amounts to global users with "superpowers" overriding a local community/admin action. That's two strikes. One more and I leave. This is not the behavior that I expect from the staff team from a service like this.
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But... while all RevDel leaves a trace, there are two levels of RevDel. The "lower level" can be restored by anyone with the deletionrevision right, which by default is assigned to the sysop group (as on Wikipedia). The "second level" can only be restored or viewed by users with the suppressrevision right, which is what the WP:OS is.
No. Oversight is the group that remains at Wikipedia assigned the RevDel permissions. Oversight was an extension that used to leave no trace that was replaced by RevDel. All RevDel now leaves a trace and can be restored, all this information is on the WP:OS page you linked - however, this does not matter as we are not granting that right to users.
I'm sorry, but they are not the same thing.
They're the same thing. They use the same feature. We're not giving out rights to them, and we won't be "cleaning up" logs and history in future, unless there's a leak of personal information or libel as stated in the system message for RevisionDelete.
@jack thanks for the response.
ShoutWiki is indeed not consensus-operated and individual wikis' settings generally speaking need consensus only from the existing community (if any); "global consensus" just isn't something that's a thing over here.
Jul 27 2019
Jul 25 2019
Been deployed for a number of months now with no issues.
So I played around with a few headers today, after giving Varnish most of Utter's RAM to play with. Pages at /wiki/ are currently cached for 10 minutes (we ought to maybe change this to be a little more namespace specific and/or exclude Special: pages?) and images for a month.
Jul 24 2019
Utter is now serving requests on all ShoutWiki sites. Will close task assuming no issues reported within the next few days.
Jul 18 2019
@znotch190711 If you aren't sure what projects to add a task to, don't. This isn't a task that requires a lot of code so it doesn't belong in Major Code. Also, stop the world and his wife to tasks. We've got systems that watch for new tasks so we can action them where necessary. What we don't have, is systems to go and clean all this junk from everyone's inboxes.
Jul 15 2019
We don't need CentralAuth, we already have a global user table. @jack developed the GlobalUserPage extension for ShoutWiki.
Jul 14 2019
Except that I'm not asking for revision suppression. I'm asking for revision deletion. There are two different things.